By the time I shot Scorsese, I was in the early phase of conceiving the seven-stage dynamic of the creative process as a template for communication with artists. I saw that he was nervous. So I said to him, “I always get nervous in the beginning of the session. How are you doing?” And he said, “Oh yeah, I’m nervous”, and we were in an intimate communication instantaneously because we connected at an emotional level right out. So we have this amazing conversation, exploring his creative journey. “If I can forgive my characters, why not forgive myself when I sense the same feelings in myself?” he tells me.